
Welcome back to “The Valuart Podcast”: a weekly appointment with art, crypto art & technology.
In this episode, we talk with NFTIgnition, AKA Danielle Davis – advisor, marketer, writer, educator, mother – and, since the most intriguing story of the NFT-era broke three weeks ago, part of the Fame Lady Squad leadership, discovered. With the Fame Lady Squad we talk about the process behind the creation of their non-fungible tokens and the community that has arisen. Listen to the interview with the collective that has one of the most important NFT collections.
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the valuart podcast
and we are back hey everybody welcome
back to the valuart podcast eddie izzy
and mark with a webcam here which is uh
wild
i almost i almost forgot that you
weren't just a disembodied voice for a
second mark yeah
giving us knowledge
yeah so this is actually a special
episode because not only do we have mark
with a webcam but we're also gonna gonna
do it live i mean this if you're
watching this on youtube like after the
fact it's not live obviously but we're
doing our first live episode today we
are being joined by uh nft ignition who
is
kind of
stewarding as they put it the fame
ladies squad project now we'll get into
that later uh where should we start
should we start with
newsletters let's just catch up let's
just catch up is what's going on what's
going on in your life
yeah my life so
uh last time we we took off
actually you know guys this is unrelated
but i did try to take a digital detox
and it lasted like no no after we spoke
about
yes it wasn't two wasn't 48 hours though
so you don't get 100 bucks for me
oh damn
well i'll try again
how did it how did it feel did you feel
kind of
strange i felt strange because i had
like the urge to flip my phone even if i
wasn't like you don't even like receive
messages and i just like need to
click the screen and
check out the time sometimes i even
check the time and
so what happened at a certain point like
to kill time i i'm back in milano this
is like i'm at my new home um at a
certain point i had to bring my mac to
the
to the mac store to like
check it out so at a certain point i
looked where the drone was and it was
like uh an 80-minute walk so i did an
80-minute walk
to kill time
did you have like did you have a nice uh
did you start to feel like more present
and have ideas come to you because
that's like when i'm walking and i have
my phone like silenced that's like the
best time to really refer i was pretty
inspired yeah yeah
yeah then will you continue doing it
what did you do with the inspiration did
you just
write something absolutely nothing
i just let the flow go and not yet but i
still have it like in me um
so we'll see how that turns out then i i
have to admit like on my way back i
i started saying that i would go also
like walking back but halfway i took a
taxi but i had an awesome conversation
with the taxi driver so
that's nice that's nice at least some
some genuine human connection is always
good exactly and i needed to you know
wind off all the frustration i had for
the bondly situation so
that was also
kind of a purpose for my lawn my long
walk uh
last time
we spoke last week there was about to be
the token redeployment
that went terribly
uh this week i've been sharing uh videos
from twitter with you guys i'm i'm gonna
share those probably my next newsletter
uh yeah so a total disaster but today i
finally got my tokens back and
so i sold you so guilty
no dining hands for izzy but did
everybody dump like is it all is it like
falling apart is the product basically
a lot of a lot of people are jumping
yeah yeah
yeah that's why i mean i i'm sorry for
the team just because of course like i
i started being part of that project
just because i was so
i had so much enthusiasm towards it but
yeah i got trusted issues right now
well i i'm happy that that stress is out
of your life because it's out of mind
now too yeah exactly you won't be
hearing me speaking about molly
at least not not anymore
and not for a while but
mark updates on in your life like things
are going well with uh the realm stuff i
see and i actually
signed up for pokestarter and got my
polls in there so i could be part of the
ido which is so many words that i just
said that i only learned within the last
48 hours
it's impressive in my other job i land
planes so and
now i've got back of holiday and it's
incredible how much i've missed um kind
of semi-working from holiday the nft
world has oh man just exploded again so
i've missed quite a lot that said
i've been doing
a bit of writing on
the laws of the metaverse and how
the laws of
real life are going to be applied if at
all into the metaverse and how those
laws
may or may not be
put in and i've learned some pretty
scary facts about laws in the last few
days can you share a couple or one yeah
sure well don't keep doing it
so
when i sorry someone i do this for a
platform called engine starter which
if you're into ideos eddie at the moment
you can go and use your polka starter
and have a look at that and i just
thought law there's there's not many
laws are there there can't be that many
laws turns out there's
quite a lot um in the uk they
brought in 3 000 new laws alone in 2010
america has like 30 000 laws
individual laws about everything and
are we talking about bills to be
bills to be passed into law or we're
talking like actual laws
actual laws obviously a lot of them are
redundant and you know they're made a
long time ago and they've just never
been taken out of the
out of the legal framework but there's
just so many and obviously as concerns
of metaverse a lot of it's about
copyright and intellectual property and
how those laws are going we spoke about
it a few weeks ago with with um nate
and
how those laws are going to be put into
the members so i've just been looking at
that again
which was
um
pretty fascinating
and very cool also there's some more
apes i've been looking at some gambling
apes
which is a new nft collection coming
soon um which incorporates yourself
oh it's coming soon so it's it's coming
soon so it's just um
um
a
platform which can incorporate can i ask
you
what the obsession is with apes in this
space like why is everything in
iteration of an eight why is why is
everybody using that
symbology i don't get it i think i don't
i think it's animal i don't think it's
just i just think they're
right but there's a lot at the moment
you know
if it works well i've already said this
to you before i feel like there's a lot
of overlap with like the hypebeast
culture of like street wear and and like
exclusive drops and limited runs plus
this nft world and you have
what one of the most famous streetwear
brands is bathing ape and i was like
that's got to be that can't be an
accident like somebody has had to have
seen that and been like oh we should
just use that people will recognize that
and it'll it'll do something
subconsciously to to people i think but
that's just a theory what's the um well
bathing ape what's their ethos bathing
ape is it is it is it streetwear is it
dude if they've got attitude what's the
kind of bossy ethos i have no idea
because i i think first of all the
branding is in my opinion it's super
weird and i don't think it's a nice look
like most of the vape stuff that i see i
just feel like
about it so i don't i don't really know
i'm not the one to speak on that but i
think streetwear in general is about
hype it's about like bragging rights and
that's exactly what these nmt series
seem to be about most of them
yeah i think there's there's kind of
maybe two there's a lot of cute nfts as
well like cute
nfts seem to work like the penguins and
well
any other animal ones is it in the last
week that have been launched well yeah
like you know i'm full of unicorns so
don't tell like me
or my
but i've won that um so the stoner cats
right
um
are you still holding
like
i'm still holding reggie yes but i'm
still waiting for the second episode and
guys i kind of realized i'm really
impatient like in these weeks and
so
the second episode still has to come out
and from what i understood i still have
to wait a month so
in the stoner cats i what i really love
is the utility
for it right um in the entertainment
space but at the same time i don't feel
like in the
i mean
it's not like super hype like in other
communities right
but that's good i think that's
sustainable like you're gonna actually
get a whole series out of that yeah if
people were to just drop it because they
were trying to flip it for whatever i
don't know paper hands is that what they
say i don't i don't know
it's not it wouldn't work
diamond hands is holding paper hands i
think is flipping
i'm i'm learning the lingo i'm trying to
oh god i sound like my mom what the [ __ ]
uh i'm really trying
anyway uh i think that's that's my
favorite part about stoner cats
well that's really cool as we say if you
have to wait a month for the next
episode i know you're impatient but that
encourages people to to to not flip it
and not say it and also kind of tells us
about the power of the animation that
people
aren't selling them are they so much so
they do want to see it and they do
nobody's jumping their cats
and i don't know is if you know anything
about like about animation but putting
another episode out in a month is
already impressive that's insane to do
they just dropped the first one which
who knows how long they were working on
that for it could have been since like
february you know and then to turn it
around after launch
in a month i i hope they're
actually working on multiple episodes at
once because that would be super
stressful
do they have a monthly schedule is that
like the plan
i i i was looking for the schedule i
didn't find it i i found out like on on
twitter and on discord uh
but unless i published it these days i i
couldn't find like a a timetable of like
when the episodes would be released and
that's probably something that's
good for impatient people like me i
guess yeah in a certain sense um i mean
it does keep the mystery
up but
yeah so it's definitely like a
um a challenge with myself but
speaking of mystery and uh let's let's
talk about mystery and the opposite of
utility have you guys seen the dot dot
dots series on twitter yet
no what is it okay so
this project launched secretly last
night a stealth launch and it was uh
there's no ui there's no um marketing
there's no team there's no official
channels at all and
last night there was this sort of
cryptic
um
this twitter account released this like
really cryptic uh like arg like an
augmented reality game kind of thing
where it was a puzzle and you solved it
there was a
smart contract on either scan that you
could write and mint a nft and they
minted the first 4
300 and
i think and
people bought them for like .05 eth and
now they're now the the floor on them is
like i think two eth or almost two eth
and it's like going insane but it's
nothing it's not literally it's
uh twitter i saw it on twitter and i saw
a couple people tweet about it and i was
like i have to see this i went to the
discord i'm getting [ __ ]
indoctrinated i'm like you're
unbelievable like you told me you didn't
open your twitter account like since
it's sick and it's really sick and now
you're finding oh my god i know well so
i'm really fascinated by the
by the
spectacle of it and the and the
communities that pop up around it so
i've been in the dot dot dots discord
today watching them talk about it and
it's like so bizarre so
so the the way the smart contract
functions is once the once it hits once
i can't tell if it's ethereum if people
keep saying once ethereum hits an
all-time high they uh release 10 more to
be minted
it could be something to do with the
floor i don't know but the point is
there's no actual utility to this it's
all mystery and
it's become like the top it's in the top
five in terms of trading on openc right
now it's like unbelievable
how much money is being
i can't actually have to turn the
discord off because i can't look at it
it's like it's so
intoxicated
again
what would you say
can you run by the stargate the four the
first four thousand comments on this
was it a tweet or the game which get
minted
no no uh they
sorry there was four thousand comments
now there was four thousand over four
thousand minted uh last night okay so
and you there was no website or anything
like you had to go to the ether scan
address and then like there's a smart
contract on there you can run the smart
contract if you you put in you link your
wallet to it your web3 wallet like if
you have meta mask or something and then
you can mint it and if you were in the
know if you were paying attention and
you solved this little riddle you could
find you could go and make one of these
and you can mint like up to five i think
and uh if you were one of the lucky ones
that got one last night for .05 eth you
can probably sell it now for like i
think one sold for 13 eth today this
morning like it's unbelievable what's
happening
why didn't you buy one
oh i didn't know until a few hours ago
i would have i actually i am
i almost bought one on open c no no i
did i did however i did buy my first um
i did mint my first uh uh nft about
three hours ago from
something i found out
it just happened something i found out
i minted one so something i found out
through this dot dots uh discord
somebody mentioned another project which
is still like in the minting phase which
i don't know if it's going to actually
go anywhere doesn't matter it was like
.028 or something but i also bought my
dot eth domain if you can call it that
my
my i bought contento.e so my wallet is
now that you know that's cool
you literally what because i thought
when you told me about it you said that
yeah no no i did it yeah i told you
about it but i didn't think you would do
it
so i'm really upset with this how does
that work
you um can you see today
it's pretty easy the only thing is the
gas prices right now are ridiculous so
like my 10
10
domain cost like 130 bucks because of
gas
yeah
yeah but it's nice because like i wanted
i've always wanted contento.com but
contento.com is owned by this big like
german
uh furniture company like i think they
make candy
opportunity you're like so now when they
move into the when that company moves
into like the uh the metaverse and they
want that dot screw you
no it's mine sorry
so uh we're we're at it's five o'clock
now i think um we should be joined by
we've got somebody waiting have we
already i don't see we have three people
in in in the audience
uh
but i don't see
coming from fame lady squad that must be
your audience yeah
maybe this is exciting we've never done
this live oh mark i wouldn't ask you you
changed your uh twitter handle to the
metaverse writer and you lost the
apocalypse daddy handle
it just temporarily
it's an it's an experiment it's only
just an experiment
you can change your handle i just want
to see what happens
hey i'll let you know next time danielle
hey danielle
hello
i don't know if she didn't even
hear
daniel can you hear us i can now yes
so thank you for joining us we're really
excited to talk to you um yeah we uh i i
stumbled across the fame ladies story i
guess like two weeks ago or something
and i immediately sent it to the our
group chat and i was like we have to
talk to these
ladies uh because
it is such a like a
wonderful story like it this space is
full of
what is not considered nice i guess you
could say it's like kind of gross
um so uh i'm really i'm really happy to
have a little bit of positivity in here
and uh to just catch up and see how
things are going
yeah yeah things have been going great
first before we start talking fame
ladies i'm curious
when did you become nft ignition
officially on socials like how long has
that been a thing
um so i've been nft ignition since
october of last year
okay wow so you've been kind of ahead
ahead of the curve a little bit
yeah yeah i actually it's funny i was
only into crypto for
less than a month before i found nfts so
like i learned about bitcoin and then
shortly after i learned about nfts and i
was like yep this is my thing
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and how quickly that has yeah you become
like a sort of a thought leader in the
space in a way and and really quickly so
what was the first nft project that
caught your eye or caught your attention
yeah it was actually when meme came out
when the meme token came out and
um
it was really interesting because like
explaining it to
my like my family and the people i knew
you know like farming digital pineapples
for digital art that i can sell
um they thought i was crazy
legit
that i was crazy like at one point my
dad even told the neighbor that he
thought i was on drugs
um
talking about these
art
has that changed at all over the last
few months like do they get it now or do
you have like better ways to communicate
with what it is what's going on yeah
yeah so um
you know i've been talking to them about
it for
almost a year now so they definitely
understand it better but it's at the
point now where my dad goes down to the
bar and tries to find people who know
what nfts are so he can brag about me
and he can't so he like teaches them
about them first and then tries to brag
about me
that is adorable
i love that
have you got them investing in anything
has your dad invested in anything
no
no um i think he feels since i'm
in it so far that he doesn't really need
to worry about it
okay
[Laughter]
like i have all my money are in
is in crypto
and and what do you do outside of
investing like outside of the crypto the
crypto stuff are you like in tech or do
you do something related to
finance yeah so um
what i was doing before i got into fame
ladies was doing marketing for nft
projects
um i do a lot of like advising and
consulting for startups and
new you know generative profile picture
projects so i've worked with
probably about 30 40 projects in the
last year
and then also um i mentor a lot of
artists help artists like enter the
space that was one thing that when i
found nfts i was super excited
because i have a ton of artist friends
like i just that's
where i live there's a lot of artists so
i was always running around like trying
to oh my god i love your art making nft
out of it and you know
at the time like i said i sounded a
little crazy so i did make
nftbases.com and that helped kind of
explain it to people and
um
i think i've probably helped
maybe 300 400 artists since i didn't
always learned how to mint their first
grade
it's sometimes like five a day it's a
lot but i love it that's amazing and are
you
are you like making is this a business
for you now then or is it just a is it
still a hobby
uh both i mean when it comes to
individual artists i don't charge them
but for projects or like vcs stuff like
that yeah right
okay that's very cool uh and okay so
then let's talk let's talk this family
situation like can you just run us
through as quickly as possible like what
happened at the beginning of last month
and then like what when were you exposed
to famed ladies and
and how did the trans the transfer
happen
yeah so i bought them a couple days
after mint or it might have been the day
after mint i had just missed it
um
and i found them actually because i was
following digital art chick's wallet
like i was you were following the wallet
specifically not her yeah yeah yeah
because she doesn't announce everything
she buys so um you know follow the
wallet and you know what they're really
doing
so i had bought a few projects actually
those couple days because um because she
had been buying them and um started
looking into the discord and and the
community was amazing it was just a ton
of people that were like
yay we love women in the space how can
we get more women in the space and
husbands giving their wives their first
nft or their daughters their first nfts
uh we had people who were about to have
babies that were getting posters printed
to put up in their room because they
wanted a powerful woman picture in the
room like it was just a vibe i had never
felt in crypto before
and it was kind of like i spent all my
time in that discord for the first
couple weeks it was open
and then the team was just really not
super engaged
um
you know they'd come in like once a day
and be like hey guys guys these are
really good ideas we'll talk about it as
a team and then come back the next day
and say the same thing and
like we never really got anything out of
them as a community we were kind of
trying to hold the project up because we
loved it so much and then
you know that day happened where
everybody came out and was saying that
instead of being three females it was
actually three russian men
and
you know there wasn't a ton of evidence
at first it was basically oh this person
promoted the project before anybody else
knew about it
right i was like okay
but their reaction to it was not great
um
are you talking about
linux like
tweets the thread of tweets that was
like yeah there was a twitter spaces
that i was in that i was listening to
for about three hours there was 600
people in there
and it was just all about queenship city
uh cyber city girls club the unicorn
fame ladies all these projects that the
team
might have been a part of i don't think
they were part of queen ship we don't
know for sure but
it was just a bunch of people come up on
stage and giving their evidence or
saying why they did or didn't think that
they were men
um and i listened to it for at least an
hour and i was like
i don't know about all this i'm not sure
i didn't want it to be true though also
at the same time because i you know i
had like 20 of them they were my
favorite nfts i love the community
uh but anyways um so
fast forward to the next day and they
come out and they're like okay yeah it's
true we're we're men we didn't think it
was a big deal and was such a big deal
in western culture to
to do what we did
um
and they're like we're not scammers
they know but so yeah they get western
culture right the whole the whole thing
was like a way to manipulate
like the
exactly pathos of western western
culture
right well and
you know the
the art was good we can't say it wasn't
they delivered on their road map they
were there it's not like they just
took the money and ran they were in the
discord even if it wasn't much um so it
was really weird situation like nobody
really knew what to think or how to feel
except just hurt and upset
um so uh board becky or ashley um as her
real name she created a discord just so
everybody had somewhere to go because we
were kind of worried it would get
deleted
and
they would just run
um so at first then we had a meeting
with some people just to see each other
face to face
and be like okay you know what just
happened what are we going to do next
and what was that like talked about
sorry what was
it like to see people yeah
i mean i normally
i i see people every day like artists
and stuff that i talk to it's normal for
me to talk to everybody that i see face
to face but um just a bunch of people
from the community it was just really
cool that everybody's like okay we want
to know we want you to know who we are
right now so you can feel safe and
comfortable and we're all in the same
position so we i don't know it just made
everybody feel a little bit better i
think
right um
and our original plan was to like fork
it or make a whole new project and just
airdrop it to everybody that had ladies
like we
didn't even think to ask for the
contract
right um
you know i had posted one time i was
like you should just give us the
contract but like in my mind i didn't
even think to like dm them and ask for
it
um so we were just thinking oh we're
going to work on this kind of in our
free time it'll just be a side project
but something that we you know we're all
really passionate about at least working
on
so then um the next day we get a message
from artchik sorry to rope you into this
and it's a tag to a tweet and i have
like a thousand notifications like okay
what's going on so read the message and
um
she's like oh i'm getting you guys the
contract like i hope that's okay with
you and there's a
a vote on twitter that the old team
posted that said should we give the
contract to digital archive
the it was like 75 percent yes at 25 no
i was like oh my god
so i run around and try to get as many
votes as possible picking just in case
like because the way they worded it made
it seem like our chick was getting the
contract which really she was just
passing it on to us
um and she is kind of a controversial
like
person in the space so i think that's
that's part of the reason why they've
ordered it that way
have you talked to like the previous
team at all in the last month about like
because they started a grant i saw to
support artists and like to i guess
apologize for the other projects as well
and the stuff that they the deception
yeah
um i've spoken with
two of them
very briefly um so one of them had
deleted their twitter and then started
it back up
and they had sent me a message like i
believe in you and that was it which was
really weird um and then i did speak to
max to get the layers for the art but
that's been it
okay and like uh one of them max it was
like
super young right
i think yeah
honestly is that that's something i
wanted to talk to you about because i
feel like i feel old in this space i'm
29 and i feel old in this space so i see
that there's like a ton of gen z like
just like creating things super fast and
creating a lot of hype and making a lot
of uh people really excited and then i
don't know and that that
seems to be a common theme in the pfp
world at least
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profiles too
are younger
yeah
yesterday uh so i'm gonna be like off on
the podcast next week so i pre-recorded
an episode for the following week and i
talked to this kid who's holding one of
the apes and like i hadn't i had no idea
who to expect when we started the
conversation and he comes on and he's 18
and i'm like what
[Laughter]
oh my god
yeah it was wild
um that's amazing though because younger
people
i mean there's i think younger people i
i was a teacher in a past life so
like for me it just makes so much sense
that we need to be educating like the
children on this stuff um not to take
over
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you know but just
so
they can teach their friends like if a
kid learns something and they
maybe they make an nft and they make
some money from it they're gonna tell
every kid in the neighborhood hey i made
two hundred dollars like a piece of art
like every kid in the neighborhood is
going to be making art
like what a great thing for the whole
neighborhood to be doing
yeah it's and but i feel like they're
they're the ones educating us like mark
has a couple marquez kids and he was
talking about how uh like we were we
were speaking about this last week about
how it's you can't keep up with what
they're doing and what they're what
they're interested in because it moves
so quickly and like
i think it's more about just instilling
the right morals or
like giving them the right moral
compassion when they get when they
encounter these things they're like oh
this feels right or wrong i think but um
so you guys took over and this discord
became like the official discord and
the
and then you did a relaunch right and
the relaunch was like two weeks ago
uh it was last week tuesday
wow it feels like two weeks it feels
like i know so much time so much happens
in such a short time
how how was that how was the real launch
were you nervous about it like you you
guys you and ashley don't claim to be
owners of the project but you do claim
to be like kind of managing things how
much
have you learned about doing something
like this that you had no idea about
prior
um well i would say just with my
experience with with other projects this
is all stuff that i've done before but
the one thing that was different this
time was having that
super supportive community sitting there
ready on day one like
just hyped about everything you do i've
never had that like you can't even build
that kind of community like there's
really no way to do that so it's really
amazing that that's what we have
within a few hours of us getting the
contract we had over 200 people fill out
a form to volunteer
to help us
like 100 200 wow
yeah and and how did you figure out like
what you needed like what were the roles
you were looking for and how did you get
them filled like how does that work and
how
how did you find uh
data also was that was was he part of
the team from the from the very
beginning
yeah yeah so dana and i had been talking
for a while we actually um
had in the past created like some
marketing plans for the original team
that they had completely ignored um but
we had worked together
just like on the sidelines kind of
trying to help the project for a while
and then also at one point we had talked
about like doing our own thing together
so we had kind of built a a relationship
together at that point and then um he
had been talking to ashley i hadn't been
talking to her but he like linked
everybody up together
um
and it
right away it was it was hard like
putting the team together it was
stressful because um we had no money to
give anybody we have nothing to do for
anybody new ladies no nothing like um we
want powerful women in the in the space
to work on this project but we have
nothing to offer them we have to ask
them to volunteer
so um we pretty much just did what we
can with the three of us so far and we
are actually working right now we have a
vote to raise royalties up to five
percent because it's a two and a half
percent right now and we're hoping with
with that extra two and a half percent
that maybe we can start um paying some
people on the team and then we can
expand but so far it's been very bare
bones um there's the three of us and
then we have amazing mods
and volunteers that help
and we can delegate work to them but so
the royalties are the only revenue
stream for you right now
yes and i guess merchandise is something
because you're wearing a great shirt i
see yeah i love it yeah yeah this is
just mine
this is a sample we are working on some
merch uh the thing is everybody owns
their own ip so anyone can make their
own merch and we want to help people
learn how to do that
that was so a really interesting part of
this for me like you're giving the
copyright to the to the collector
awesome and does that transfer every
time a new person buys
on the secondary market yep
can you did you get that
oh yeah yeah it does transfer it
transfers with the nfd it's right
actually in the description normally
that's not the case but
okay
okay that's super interesting so if i
have a fame lady which i don't because i
can't afford it but if i did
i could do an animated series around my
character and like there's no issue with
that
wow okay
tons of people that make derivatives we
have a comic book that somebody was
working on a coloring book someone was
working on
um there's tons of options and i feel
like the art really lends to
a lot of fun stuff like they're just
kind of fierce which is why we like them
in the first place so there's really a
lot that you can do with that like
yeah whatever you wanna really are tell
me about your lady who who is your
what's what backstory are you uh
this is my favorite lady i like her
because i think that she's friendly but
also kind of sexy
so i use her for my profile picture um
it was hard switching over to her
because it was the first time i had ever
used a picture that wasn't me
like i've been in the nft space for so
long and i've always used
like a cartoon version of me that i had
an artist make
um but now i don't think i'll ever be
able to change it is that kind of like a
requirement to be a
part of these communities like is it is
it weird to not use your avatar if you
buy one and you're part of one of the
communities it's not a requirement but
it does help
people like find
other people in the community and
like when i see a bunch of people follow
me i can just scroll through and be like
okay following i'm following the apes
i'm following ladies i'm pulling the top
dogs any community that i'm a part of i
see that picture and i just
automatically know to follow that person
and like how do you other than putting
the
uh the number of the avatar in your
description how do you know that that's
not just a screenshot that somebody uses
of somebody else's
uh nft
you don't right i mean it happens it
happens um i think it's more common in
the more expensive ones like i've seen
happen with with the apes specifically
and people will call them out right away
because people know who owns those apes
so wow don't last very long
yeah um with the ladies it would
it might take a while for somebody to
notice but like i i know what all 32 of
my ladies look like and i would be like
why are you using my lady for your
profile
32
yeah that's a lot
that is a lot that's pretty cool
are you gonna start like a like a
football team
i did have a question from um
earlier from a point you did bring up
you said that you started you know
getting into crypto from october last
year
sorry into nfts because you said that
you were already into crypto
um
so i i started like getting into crypto
in that period too and i just wanted to
you know ask you how
because i feel like first thing that
there's like a huge gap at the moment
between men and female in the space and
you know definitely this this project is
gonna
help to close that gap but how are your
feelings in the space
yeah it's still very very uneven um
you know even in a project like ours
that's more female oriented a large
large portion of our collectors are
still men
um you know we we are working on trying
to find ways to bring more women into
the space we have a podcast that we will
be working on
um i've even been
looking into maybe
uh visiting local schools in my area as
a as a previous teacher and seeing if i
can teach some like courses or get some
groups together
um
you know our goal is to get thousands of
women into nfts into crypto in the next
year so
we're gonna see
how we can do that in whatever ways
possible but
one big way i think that
is
that nobody's doing really now right now
in this space is helping women who are
entrepreneurs or business women find
ways to put
to build nfts into their existing
businesses there's so many use cases and
utilities and gamification and things
like that that can be used in um you
know these they're already in a position
where
where they can be implementing new
things if they're running a successful
business so
um
that that is one good way to
help them were you at all apprehensive
about it like when you started getting
into it was it even a thought for you
like oh this is like a lot of really
kind of crypto bros and i don't really
like this space or it didn't even faze
you
no i think at this point i'm just one of
the bros too
there is quite a bit of bro culture
regardless of gender right it is kind of
broly yeah
yeah yeah i think i find it so
frustrating when i'm in a discord and i
see someone say like let's go brothers
and i'm like
what why that
that word
there's so many other people all the
time
that's so weird it's yeah
but as a gamer like you know before i
was into crypto i i did game for years
and years and um
no matter what your username and and
character is you get called a guy every
time like so i'm just yeah
it doesn't offend me at all
in the uh in the town hall recording for
you guys the first one like i think
ashley started off saying hey guys and
then like corrected herself and i was
like oh that's interesting because
especially in the fame ladies like
universe you know that's like a weird
pronoun if you can call it that or a
weird uh do you have you done a
community survey about like like to
figure out what the gender divide is in
the fame ladies
in the squad um
not
not with the full community but it's
definitely something that we've talked
about um you know we've asked with some
of the forms that we've sent out where
we were getting information from
volunteers or from writers or various
things we've tried to kind of gauge but
we haven't
gotten like a full breakout
okay
what are some of the more notable uh
figures in in
just in the twitter sphere that have
tweeted support for fame ladies and like
are you are holding
one of the ladies
yeah well wendy oh as a supporter she
had it as a profile picture i was on her
show one time and um you know she's a
great powerful woman figure in the space
so that was great um we had actually uh
gary vee does own a ton of ladies
uh he used to be very active in the
discord before all this happened
he's been kind of absent since like i
think he's just
kind of waiting and seeing what we do
but he is in our new discord
so yeah he just hasn't said anything yet
so we'll see i have
that
you touched a particular point for eddie
right eddie i have a
problem
i have a problem with garyvee's brand
specifically but um i'm curious what
your thoughts are on on like his
influence in the space and if it's
wholly positive or if it's
what do you think about it what do you
think about gary as a as a as an
influencer in this world
so
when he first got into
the project and
i feel like it kind of caused like a
pump and dump to the price
like the garyvee effect everybody knows
when he hops in a discord everybody
screenshots and then your price doubles
right um
and
it wasn't sustainable like because the
team wasn't really doing anything beyond
um
at that time just the initial drop
um
so for projects that can keep it up
can keep up that hype and and like world
of women like he hyped up for all the
women which is a very good project i you
know i have eight of those myself
i don't think that that hurt that
project at all because he was just
bringing people to a project that was
already great that hadn't heard about it
yet it could sustain that people were
willing to stick around it wasn't just a
flip
but if people
if the project isn't strong enough at
the time that he does it then it can
have really negative effects
like if he were to do it now that we
have a strong community it would have a
different effect than the first time he
did it
but i don't think i honestly don't
believe that that's his motivation i
think his motivation is exactly the the
the pump and dump effect and i i i even
wonder if whoever's behind the the
discord uh account is is scary like i i
question the authenticity of that
because i feel like
you see
exactly you someone someone sees that
he's in there and they screenshot it and
then it's in a matter of moments like
the hype is insane and even like the the
people that follow him are known for
flipping right it's not even necessarily
a positive thing when you're a series if
you want longevity i guess um
i guess that's just the nature of of the
space now especially because everything
is so new and moving so quickly i will
mention though two other people that
have shouted out frame ladies um andy
milanka's bought one
what that's awesome
it's like so weird
neither of my team members know who he
is but i was just like oh my god i just
went back to middle school like in my
life
like i can't get his songs stuck on my
head but um and then um m.c hammer has
been retweeting them for some reason he
doesn't buy them but he's been
retweeting them so that's so random
i know
i know like can we get some celebrities
from this century
yeah
yeah good point
well i think it's only a matter of time
especially like so what are some of the
exciting things like
some of the exciting utilities you guys
are talking about for for this project
because that will bring more
uh what's let's say like substantial i
think support
yeah yeah so um we currently
are in talks with two different brands
for brand partnerships and i can't like
give any information as to who they are
because of nda's um
but you know one of them might be like a
shoe or clothing company and if okay
they
um
had some sort of a partnership with us
where you could link your lady and get
like 20 percent off a pair of shoes or
something like that
um
or
or whatever you know there's a lot of
utility there where um
where we could kind of get our name out
there in a really big way
by giving
people that hold them
utility as you said
we do have a members only section
right now ladies only section of the
website that has data and graphs and in
the future it will have some content
articles videos educational materials
stuff like that that
you will only be able to access and view
if you have a lady and the information
won't just be related to the ladies like
we're going to have charts and graphs
for all the nft projects on there
what was the the response like for the
relaunch like in terms of uh or what was
the trading
like around that time where people
were people
was there a lot of movement on like the
secondary markets or people were pretty
it's been going up steady since last
tuesday and and even since before then
but uh the last couple days is really
when we've seen them the most growth
um
you know we've had
almost a million dollar in sales in one
day
so we've been doing pretty good is that
so it's obviously it's a good thing for
you for royalties to have these sales
but is it does that mean anything for
you and turnover in terms of like
community like does it like people
leaving
well the the
holder count is going up there's a lot
of people that have a lot of ladies um
you know for instance we have somebody
that's got about 500 of them and they've
been flipping
a lot of them more recently and as long
as they don't dump the price that's good
and it's healthy for people to get in at
a lower lower price
are you speaking are you having a
dialogue with those people to like help
expand the community and or is it just
like a free-for-all like they do
whatever they want with it because
that's how that's how it is
yeah i mean it's definitely a
free-for-all actually the um a couple of
the people that have the most ladies
aren't even in the discord
that's a bummer
really yeah i wouldn't have thought that
like i imagine somebody having
the more nfcs the more like i'm involved
in the community
yeah it's usually not the case though
like people that run around and they buy
200 of every big project they're too
busy to be
seeing how the discord is
yeah so you think that definitely this
um
you know this holder for example might
be somebody who's
looking more towards like the
speculative part of it instead of like
the value
because you are like you're one of your
core values is the community right
you're community driven yeah they
definitely have they purchased them
before this team even had them so i
would you know
at the time
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you know i'm pretty sure anybody who's
buying 200 to 500 or something is funny
yeah yeah definitely
also because you choose like like yours
right you kind of like um see yourself
and you you mentioned that you can't
imagine
uh changing your image you kind of like
recreate your identity in it uh
absolutely so definitely i think that
that's something that these
huge holders kind of lack in
yeah
yeah
to that note how much do you think
covid is responsible for these projects
and the and the hysteria around them and
the success of them like the the lack of
connection and community is responsible
for that like because most of these
projects are just about the community
and
and the investment obviously but like
the ones that are sticking around are
about the community at least like
do you think that changes if it happened
in 20
sec i mean some of them haven't been
around for 20 since 2017 and we're just
now talking about them do you think it's
kobe related
i mean i think there's always been
groups of people out there
finding their
social needs being met online whether
it's gaming or whatever but i do think
that covet has definitely
caused like a perfect storm for
everything to just explode um not only
was it people being stuck at home and
being lonely but the unemployment checks
that people were getting that were twice
as much as what they normally were
getting and i can speak from experience
because i was making like a thousand
dollars a week and that was the first
time i had ever made that kind of money
before
and
you know having extra money that you can
put into stuff and
um
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stimulus checks and all that and and you
can't leave your house it's not like
um you know maybe now things are
different depending on where you live
but like i have a son who's high risk so
i'm on the more cautious side of things
so
i think all of it has contributed i
think it would have happened eventually
but probably a lot slower it could have
taken us maybe another 10 years to get
to where we are now
and do you feel like the
your personal
involvement in and like uh activity in
like these discord
channels and and in these communities is
is a is a healthy one in general like is
it more healthy than
like
is it distracting i i i sometimes like i
was just they were making fun of me
before you joined izzy and mark because
i hadn't used my twitter account since
like 2016 or something and then in the
last month or so i started doing it for
this podcast and now i'm like on it all
the time and i feel like okay this is
maybe a problem they're becoming a
problem
yeah
do you sleep
no not lately it's hard to sleep with
things or pumping right
because then you get that whole like
should i sell should i not sell and i'm
the type of person where
i'll list a bunch of nfts and then i'll
come back an hour later and de-list them
all because i'll be sticking out
thinking about it
yeah
yeah yeah i it's an addiction it is it's
very exactly i feel like it's healthy
and not healthy at the same time
are the connections for you substantial
like are are they meaningful are they
just something in in the midst of
nothing else
i would say they're definitely
substantial like i've i've met a lot of
these people in person i've gone to like
when i went to [ __ ] coin and hung out
with all these people like i i have
legit friends that i've made in this
space that i will probably talk to for
the rest of my life um very cool people
that get me better than anybody that's
ever got me before like this is this is
my place this is where people get me so
it's now how does that make you where i
live to understand it
that's
that was my next question like how does
that make your your home relationships
feel in comparison is it does it feel
like uh strange does it feel like
another world
yeah kinda um
because when i talk to my other friends
about stuff
like i feel like from their point of
view they just think i'm bragging about
things and like really i'm just excited
and i just want to talk about things
like i was trying to explain to my
friend how i got an ape and i was so
excited to finally be like part of the
apes and and but like it's it's only a
mutant but still an ape and i could just
it's a mutant it's okay it's not an od
okay no okay i'm just saying like i
would love an og8 i
i feel like i'm an ape but i just hope
that all the og apes feel like we're
apes too i don't know i feel away about
it
okay um anyways but um i could just feel
her like
thinking that i don't know she just
didn't get it and like i didn't just
tell that she thought i was just like
bragging about like
being rich and like to me i was like no
i'm poor now like you don't get it i
just spent all my money it's the
opposite of what you're thinking i'm
doing right now
but do you have any friends that you did
like um that you were able to
bring into this world too
um
not really not yet um
i've tried to get my sister into it i've
been sending her stuff here and there
like i sent her a strong gnome recently
which has been doing really well
um but when i first got her into nfts i
sent her a ton of alpacas
um i don't know if you guys were like
i don't know but that sounds cute
january
they were okay so it was maybe december
january
they were
um similar to crypto kitties where you
could breed them but then you could also
stake them
and they were
they were blowing up at the time that i
sent her a bunch and
i was making tons of money off of them
like i was breeding hundreds of eggs a
day it was
literally insanity and i sent her a
bunch and i was like oh my gosh this is
how much money i'm making off of them
blah blah and i sent her a bunch and um
like all she did was lose money on gas
basically
so she's like i don't think this is for
me this is not really my thing and i was
like okay sorry
like
i meant well what do you think is
holding back people
because i i struggle with this too like
i don't know i feel like after a while
there's like that awkward silence that
you kind of feel like
they think you're bragging like you
mentioned
like
um
i mean i think
i i do wish it was a little simpler for
people to just log in hop in
make an account on openc use their
credit card to buy an nft it's so
so hard to do to do certain first time
oh my gosh
unicel scared the crap out of me for
like me too i'm not even yesterday
the whole uni-swap airdrop because i
went on uniswap like every day for a
week trying to figure it out i was like
where did the tokens go after you swap
them i don't understand there's no
instructions
i was feel too stupid to ask anybody so
i just kept giving up i was like no i'm
just not gonna do it and then i finally
did it and i was two days late to get
the unit swap airdrop because i hadn't
pulled the trigger any of the other
times that i was on the website and i
was so mad at myself for that especially
after it pumped you know super high but
um
yeah it
does need to be a little simpler for new
people okay yesterday
yesterday i set my wallet like name to
like i bought uh a dot eth uh domain i
guess you call it and i was so afraid to
like use that as the transfer
destination i was like i don't know if
this is gonna work and i don't wanna
risk losing a thousand bucks over some
stupid [ __ ] thing so i was like
i don't want to ask anyone because i
don't want to sound like an idiot well
that's the thing you don't know who to
ask because who can you trust in this
space because if you go on twitter and
you say i'm having troubles with this on
metamask you get like 40 people trying
to scam you with links to forms to fill
out and people in your dms and say on
time and people are so afraid of being
scammed and
it's
it doesn't make it a culture where you
can ask for help and that's something
that needs to change and like in the
fame ladies discord we always tell
people if you need help ask in the
general chat don't answer any dms if
people try to dm you for help just if
it's well i'll help you and then you
know that you're getting legit advice
and everybody's
not getting scammed hopefully
have you ever experienced anything like
this in terms of like the etiquette and
the culture around like in these discord
channels and on twitter like have you
ever is there another
uh
like a real world example of this like
the terminology and the language that we
use in this space is so bizarre and it's
so meme memeable or like it's like so
meme driven i can't think of anything
else that's like this
i would say the gaming culture like
gaming culture is probably the closest
thing
yeah like i played wow i'm not really a
gamer
okay yeah that makes sense
now you've got like this gaming plus
finance culture merging into this weird
cluster [ __ ] of like terms that no one
can gamers are smart as hell and they
will figure it out
so give gamers a reason to get into
crypto like nfts gamification oh we're
gonna gamify your skins we're gonna all
of these things that you're earning
in-game these tokens is gold whatever
we're going to tokenize that we're going
to nft it um they would be all over the
nft space so there's a there's a heavy
presence of gaming and finance people in
the nft space but i feel like there's a
real lack of like art enthusiasts of
like people who really like art and
especially from like the traditional art
side and that's kind of what this
podcast is about is like that space and
like those people
meshing what do you think that is why do
you think that people in the art space
are apprehensive about
um
i think it's
harder to convince somebody
that an artist has a value that a
collection has value
because you could show um
there's more sales there's more
information that you can show them where
when you have a new artist that has two
three pieces and they've sold one
there's not a lot of data to base it off
and you're
at that point like just basing it off of
emotion and um you know a lot of people
don't make their decisions based off of
emotions some people buy their nfts that
way but it depends on why they're buying
the nft really
but when you say emotion because i mean
i feel like fomo is an emotion it's like
a feeling of of like i need to be
involved in this but you mean like an
emotional connection to the art
yeah
yeah yeah yeah i see that i i think that
that's probably
not as big of a factor in investing or
yeah even just using the word investing
is evident of like what if what it is
mostly it's
um but with the artists that you've
helped
were they come to you because they're
already interested or have you sort of
shown people the light in terms of like
this is a great technology for you as a
digital artist
it's all over the map um i've i would
say that most people that i've
worked with as artists are now
pretty successful selling their art um
i think honestly it comes down more to
the marketing than anything when it
comes to an individual artist
um in the traditional art world they
don't have to learn how to market
themselves they can go to a gallery they
can i mean you have to a little bit but
not like it's not the same thing it's
not like crypto at all
where you have to be out there every day
creating a community creating um like a
voice for yourself a personality that
people know and understand and it has to
be so much more than just the art that
people are buying but it's also because
it's so easy to get scammed you know
there's so many people that have bought
art from people that wasn't really the
artist
and
um
it's really hard to prevent against that
but if you get to know the artist a bit
you get to know their style and you
follow them on twitter and and you see
um
over time you you learn to trust them a
little bit more
yeah
have you been in touch with like uh the
water women team
um i mean i've been active in their
discord since the beginning and i've
i've talked to arctic a few times but
other than that i haven't really
that that project
made me smile because it felt like it
really changed an artist's life
overnight which was super cool to see
yeah and not just one i the one thing i
love about that project is watching on
twitter when you know that first
time an artist gets a bid on their piece
is always just like the best feeling
like i don't know if you guys are
artists who have ever sold anything like
that but um when you made something and
it's your art and you sold it like it
just feels so much better than selling
it an nft that you bought and they go
around bidding on people's first pieces
that are females and just seeing those
tweets like oh my god my first bit on a
piece thank you world of women like
just that like being a part of that like
that's just kind of crazy
that is a really awesome feeling that i
wish we could spread more of and i i
find it strange that some of these
projects like that are
they they tend to lack that human
interface or component to them because i
guess i guess because maybe there isn't
one like in the in the example with your
project like the first time around like
that was a clear there was a clear
reason for that there was a clear
motivation for not wanting to have that
but
do you think that um
it's kind of a contradictory thing with
the with the avatar series being so
popular and people kind of taking them
as as their online identity like it it
it does detach you from the like a human
in a way
i think it does a little bit
it does it does kind of um and then all
you see is a sea of dogs and
yeah nfts and um
yeah it does a little bit but i think
the reason that people do it is because
they do have that
connection to the community that they
want everybody to see and that's more
important really to them at that time
yeah
and this this kind of
is going to be it's going to continue to
be a question especially when we move
into the metaverse and we've all got
avatars all the time anyway you know
like when we're interacting on a regular
basis in virtual reality like how how
important is it to
portray yourself as yourself or how
important is it to just kind of reinvent
yourself i think it's strange when you
have a series of ten thousand like you
said like it becomes a sea of the same
thing with like very small with very
small variations and actually i wanted
to ask you
is it possible that there are
like these avatars that are identical
and the only difference is the name
because there's no way to really verify
or
like visually ver verify
so
there has been instances in
generative projects where two have
turned up the same
um hash masks i know there were two
twins sets of twins okay
but um there hasn't been any found in
the ladies it is possible it can happen
um
it's very unlikely statistically for it
to happen um like less
possible than the most rare combination
would be to have two of the same
but
how many unique assets is the fame
ladies series comprised of
um
gosh that's a good question i don't know
um
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we have a lot i was just looking through
the layers and there's one yeah there's
hundreds of layers
wow
and
we didn't talk about this but the artist
that created them originally have you
been in touch with that person
no unfortunately not at all
we don't know we know who that is or we
don't know who that is we
um
we don't i mean we don't know really who
anybody on the team actually is except
for max because the other person
is
just a username and then the last person
didn't have a twitter
so um and
you know one thing
we don't even honestly know if
if they made the art or if they paid an
artist to do it they could have
outsourced it
yeah that's that that's crazy because if
you're talking about like giving the
intellectual property to the collector
and then this artist never was a part of
that conversation that they own the
copyright for that always unless they've
given it up that's that's
that's tricky
yeah well and copyright laws are
different in every country
so they were made in russia which they
have way different copyright laws than
russia than we do
but um
yeah it's
yeah it is i would love to i would love
to talk to that person i'm sure you
would too i'm going to do some sleuthing
i'm going to try to find this artist
i've been trying i've been trying like
i'm so careful with how i speak with max
and d nephi because i don't want to
scare them away
um
like they seem very young and to me
honestly i don't think they expected the
project to blow up like it did i think
they were like very unprepared and um
you know at one point
they were going to give us the twitter
but they weren't willing to give us the
password they were just going to give us
access on like tweet decks so we asked
them to delete it and then for a while
there we had no way to contact them at
all so then when they reached back out i
was like oh my gosh okay i don't want to
scare them off like but i asked very
nicely a couple times for the artist
information and i just get no response
so
it's
i have faith i have faith it'll happen i
i feel like especially max because i
think there's a little bit of like uh
not regret but like he i think he seemed
he felt
sincerely uh
sorry about it yeah i think maybe maybe
you'll get something eventually but uh
yeah we'll see i'll keep on it
yeah
so um so
what are so you're i saw your your
you were shilling shilling is the right
word right
for art club
our club yeah art club
what is that project about our stars
club yeah yeah yeah
how did you get involved with it yeah i
was just helping them with marketing a
little bit they have some really cool uh
like interactive nfts
where it's a character it's a generative
character that's holding a tablet
holding a frame and then you can upload
um depending on what's on the tablet you
can upload different types of nfts into
it and then there's also some with blank
backgrounds
and you can they have like 30
artists that work with them in some
capacity that they're making
custom backgrounds and you can pick what
you want your background to be out of
the custom backgrounds
so it's got a really cool like
um you know that interactive you can
change your nft idea which i really like
yeah i i saw it uh
like i think last week maybe and i was
gonna try to mint one but then i got
kind of weirded out by the whole concept
of like them being thieves and i was
like i don't know if i want this in my
wallet i don't know what's gonna happen
i'm not even kidding like i was i i'm so
sensitive to the space because of how
many scams and things there are i was
like yeah i don't want to take a risk
um i mean that's just the story that
they gave them they don't really steal
anything i promise well now that i've
seen and talked to you i'm like okay i
feel a little bit more confident a
little stupid actually but
yeah cool i i i've pretty much
covered everything i wanted to talk to
you about i don't want to don't take up
too much of your time because i know you
have like a thousand people that are
like hanging on your every word so
um mark izzy was there anything else you
guys wanted to ask danielle before we we
let her go
um yeah i
i love a lot of what you're saying there
and just to go back to i'm a former
teacher as well and i was just trying to
picture you going into a school to try
and teach the kids about nfts and seeing
all the teachers expressions as you try
to explain
what's going on i think that would be
priceless
um
you were talking about people
not coming into space i think crypto
itself is quite individualistic and
these nft projects are the antithesis of
that and it's creating this group
mentality and i think that is
i mean it's a few months really since
it's gone mainstream so it's dragging
people in
you're in a unique position to
be changing the conversation like you're
setting a legacy almost people are going
to look up to you women will look up to
you you're going to how does that feel
does it does it yeah how do you take on
that role if you like in uh
yeah yeah i mean it feels amazing it's
always
been
teaching people has always
made me feel better than anything else
like helping people have that aha moment
helping know that
like i might have changed what the next
what their future looks like that
there's nothing in the world that is
more rewarding than that um you know i
will take that over any nft or any pile
of money any day so um finding
a way that i can do that in this space
which is also like something i'm so
excited about and so passionate about is
um
honestly like perfect i couldn't find
anything better amazing answer thank you
perfect a perfect quote for the blog as
well i would take that over any nfts or
any crypto
being a woman myself in the
nft and crypto space i i really relate
to what you said and um i think that
your project is definitely gonna be
something that's gonna
you know
close that gap step by step that there
is in the space right now
uh
i i can see that
happening really soon i'm sure i'm
positive
so i love it yeah and you know i don't
think we're the only ones working on
that world of women is doing the same
thing if we get enough of these projects
out here that are not only like
giving females a comfortable space to
learn in but also like
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paying females on their team good
amounts like that's another way to get
women's and women in crypto absolutely
okay here's women in crypto and here's
what they're making um don't you want to
be making that much money that's
motivation right there you know i
checked out the road map and and
everything and i want to ask even other
um maybe spoilers that you can give us
on
uh you know the future months i know
that you guys just like relaunched so
but do you have like any other
sneak peeks you can give us um
not really
i will say the podcast we're definitely
underselling it
um like we're working on getting
sponsors and whatnot for it so it's
gonna be probably a lot
cooler than people think what is the
angle of the podcast exactly is it about
women in in the space mostly
yeah yeah so um
we're gonna use it for a few different
things but definitely women in the space
but i think we're going to focus more on
like the collectors and the business
women and stuff rather than the artists
because i feel like the women artists
out there are getting a lot of
spotlights um not enough but they're
they're they are getting some spotlight
right now so trying to find um some
other
perspectives from women in the space
that people might want to hear from um
we're just on that we're we're doing um
if you have any women artists who would
like to be in the the valuart
spotlight send send them to us we'd love
to we have a list right now speak to
them of all the female artists that
people have recommended to us it's just
like a spreadsheet is it a public list
you should publish it you should put it
somewhere so yeah that would be cool
um i lied i have one last question
and because i want to ask this because i
believe so strongly in your project and
i don't i don't see this like going away
anytime soon but i am curious when do
you think the bubble will burst
everybody always asks me that question
um
so
i think right now
the nft bubble is just starting but the
profile picture bubble
is big
that is the bubble that probably will
burst first will be all of these
generative profile picture projects
um
the blue chip projects are going to
stick around of course and the ones that
have utility and the ones that have
super super strong communities like
they'll probably be ten of these
projects at least i think that will last
long term but
pretty soon here
i think we're going to see
a lot of these other projects
we might have hit an inflection point
today like we were just talking before
you joined about the dot dot dots
project i don't know if you've seen it
yet because like i feel like you just
woke up but uh
but yeah yeah no i saw it last night
actually
oh did you get one
no i didn't
no it's interesting because more of them
will be minted in the future for the
same price of 0.05
so yeah but they're better selling them
for
i don't know how much is it now on
either probably yeah like two or three
now i think on average
wow yeah it's moving up but also i've
what i've learned is that like the
minting process is impossible if you're
a human and not a bot at this point it's
like it's not going to happen for you
yeah well those were minted right
through the contract so they like
made it yeah difficult to impossible and
on purpose
but um yeah
i'm just minting projects like the
it's ridiculous i do have concern and i
say this i feel like every week i have
concern about what this kind of stuff
does to the reputation of like the nft
technology but i i think it'll the more
i see i think it'll it'll be fine it'll
survive yeah it just takes some time
because people are still just touching
the surface of what nfts can do
yeah i don't think there's any damage
that
can be done to nfts in total but the
collectibles
and but i've been saying that since
january
and that was before the gen the
generative profile picture projects
really started blowing up at that point
people were making collectibles
that didn't have road maps that didn't
have a website they were just
collectible projects on open sea
okay and i was telling people the market
is flooded with collectibles there's
only so many frogs and ducks that people
can buy and look at where we are nine
months later and i have a wallet full of
frogs and ducks but um
but the projects have evolved
they're not just minting on open c with
without a website and without a road map
anymore now they're building these
communities and and you
know if the people that can keep up the
people that can adapt
you'll still be seeing their faces a few
months from now the rest of them
not so much
totally agree
same
well danielle thank you so much for
joining us i really enjoyed it uh yeah i
i'm gonna stay active in the family
squad discord because i really enjoy
that as well i hopefully one day i can
get my hands on one i don't know i don't
know
before the price
skyrockets i'm trying it's it's yeah
yeah i know
uh but uh maybe we'll have you on again
in the future yeah we'll be uh
following your story and um
yeah
thank you awesome thanks so much for
hanging out thank you so much
that was fun
and live we even had like one or two
people watching at a certain point that
was exciting
we got a comment we did get a comment
let let's [ __ ] yeah
yeah cool
so um
i guess we'll wrap it up there guys uh
great episode fun conversation and i
look forward to catching up with you
guys again in two weeks
have a nice day ciao bye ciao for now

Meet your hosts:

Eddie Contento
Host

Izzy Godina
Co-Host

Mark Fielding
Producer